Two Wednesdays ago I asked John three times about the same thing because I didn't believe him when he told me; a debate about a little detail on an ivory piece, a detail that I believed to be a turtle (not a minogame, a kind of mythical turtle like creature). He got angry and said I was stubborn, go away. I left the room and sat back down at my desk. He came after me, yelling, This goes to show your ignorance in Japanese mythology! Later, John conceded that Japanese mythology was maybe not the problem, and instead, our disagreement was simply a matter of buisness judgment. He told me that I was only interested in facts. I am still coming to terms with this assertion.